Lorde has been nabbing headlines left and right in promoting her upcoming album Virgin – take this Rolling Stone interview, for instance. Well here's another one: Lorde appeared on Stephen Colbert's late night program on June 24th, where she praised MDMA (or ecstasy) for curing her stage fright.

The New Zealander claims "since [she] was like five, doing community theater," she "had truly the most horrific stage fright." The antidote? "MDMA therapy [...] truly, like, changed the game on my stage fright."

This tracks, given that Virgin lead single "What Was That" contains the chorus lyric "MDMA in the back garden, blow our pupils up/We kissed for hours straight, well, baby, what was that?"

Watch the interview below. Virgin is out in two days; perform a last-minute pre-order here.